【Bloomberg Surveillance】AI Investment Boom, Tariff-Driven Inflation, and the US Dollar – Listen on Apple Podcasts

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???? Executive Summary

• ???? AI-driven capital expenditures are rapidly transforming from a stock market phenomenon into a GDP-level driver, with Jason Thomas (Carlyle) highlighting that over $400B in capex this year from a handful of tech “hyperscalers” is reshaping both equity and bond markets.
• ⚡ Energy markets remain volatile; Francisco Blanch (BofA) projects lower oil prices in H2 2025 due to excess inventories—especially in China—and emphasizes that AI’s power-hungry revolution is primarily boosting gas and electricity demand, not oil.
• ???? US inflation data is being increasingly impacted by tariff-induced price pressures. Both Greg Daco (EY) and Vishal Khanduja (Morgan Stanley) expect these effects to show up in next two CPI prints, but views diverge on whether the impact will linger or be transitory.
• ????️ US assets vs. US dollar: Khanduja notes a growing investment divergence—bullish US assets (equities) but bearish US dollar, expecting a possible 10-15% depreciation in the next two years on structural deficits and shifting portfolio flows.
• ???? Federal Reserve policy: The panel foresees ongoing tension for the Fed as stagflationary risks emerge—slowing growth, sticky inflation, and potential political pressure to favor growth, all as the institution navigates tariff and immigration shocks.

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In this episode of Bloomberg Surveillance, hosts Jonathan Ferro, Lisa Abramowicz, and guests dive into critical structural shifts in the global economy. Featured are Jason Thomas (Carlyle) analyzing the unparalleled AI-fueled surge in US capital spending and its effects on markets, Francisco Blanch (BofA) dissecting the cross-currents in energy markets and the role of AI-driven demand, and Greg Daco (EY) and Vishal Khanduja (Morgan Stanley) debating the evolving character of US inflation and the outlook for the dollar. The episode provides a robust discussion of concentration risk in tech, the changing nature of growth and productivity, and the complex, multi-layered macroeconomic picture, highlighting both opportunities and risks for the second half of 2025 and beyond.

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????️ AI Capital Expenditure and Industrial Shift

Key Analysis

[00:00:36] Jason Thomas (Carlyle) emphasizes that AI-related capital expenditures are not futuristic speculation but a tangible current economic force: “Current AI-related capex already accounts for more than a third of Q2 2025 US economic growth.” Thomas cites that over $400 billion will be spent by just four to six major tech hyperscalers this year, transforming what was once a “market significant” story into a GDP significant phenomenon.

[00:01:35] The makeup of big tech’s balance sheets is shifting in real time—from software and virtual assets to hard infrastructure. “Property, plant, and equipment now accounts for over 70% of their book value,” Thomas notes, a dramatic change from pre-pandemic levels, indicating a return to “industrial” economics for tech titans.

[00:02:51 – 00:03:51] The operational pivot also has deep implications for bond markets and system-wide liquidity: “Cumulative cash flow surplus of the corporate sector this cycle is down 75% from a decade ago.” Less surplus cash = less liquidity in the system = rising bond yields as corporate savings gluts dissipate and more corporate cash is funneled into capex, not share buybacks or dividends.

[00:05:04] The “Mag 7” tech stocks embody concentration risk: collectively, they account for “almost a third of S&P 500 capitalization and 15% of global stock market cap,” Thomas points out, warning these giants are “a concentrated bet on the same AI future.”

Controversy & Counterpoints

[00:05:04] While AI spending is undeniably large, hosts probe the danger of overreliance on a narrow group of companies—are these bets too correlated? Thomas admits, “If everyone has to hope that ultimately it pays off… it has spillovers on the rest of the economy today as well.” The panel also debates if such capex intensity can be sustained, or whether technological obsolescence will accelerate depreciation and upend expected returns.

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⚡ AI, Energy Markets, and Secular Shifts in Demand

Key Analysis

[00:10:24] Francisco Blanch (BofA) outlines that even with the AI/data center boom, oil demand is not benefiting directly: “Oil is the transportation fuel for the most part—it’s kind of left by the wayside in this AI revolution.” Instead, electricity (mainly from gas) is seeing “astronomical” demand, with Texas’ power growth up 5.5% year-on-year, a rate “hard to find in emerging markets.”

[00:10:46] Blanch expects that as China finishes stockpiling (currently holding “close to 40% of global crude stocks”), surplus will leak into the Atlantic Basin, putting downward pressure on oil prices: “Second half of the year, the surplus is going to be close to 200 million barrels.” His forecast: Brent averaging $67 and WTI $64 in 2025.

[00:14:38] On Europe’s energy crunch post-Russia, he notes switching from Russian diesel is causing market tightness, but Europe still heavily relies on Russian gas—“50% of European energy came from Russia just a few years ago.”

[00:16:20] Blanch sees gold as solidly supported by central bank demand and political pressure on the Fed: “Bullish on gold…eventually going to get around $4,000 per ounce over the next twelve months,” but highlights jewelry demand is weak, and further upside depends on investor/currency haven flows.

Controversy & Counterpoints

[00:12:36] The panel debates the extent to which the current industrial/AI revolution can decouple oil prices from past economic cycles. While the physical economy is booming with new AI infrastructure, the commensurate oil demand is muted; it’s electricity infrastructure (renewables, nuclear, gas) that’s key. Meanwhile, geopolitical risks and supply constraints create persistent volatility.

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???? Tariffs, Stagflation, and US Dollar Outlook

Key Analysis

[00:18:15] Greg Daco (EY) observes that tariff-induced price pressures are gradually surfacing: “A third to a fourth of June’s inflation was actually coming from tariff-induced price pressure.” He attributes the delay in inflation transmission to business inventory and import management, but warns that as these tools run out, inflation will pick up into the fall.

[00:20:19] Daco sees rising stagflationary forces: “Slower job growth, more concentration in a few sectors, rising continuing claims, hiring rate at a ten-year low”—all point to decelerating economic activity, just as inflation flares up from tariffs and weaker supply.

[00:21:30] A drop in immigration will have notable macro effects, curbing both demand and labor supply, with Daco estimating a drag of “0.3–0.4 percentage points over the next year—more than the impact of the new stimulus bill.”

[00:27:30] Vishal Khanduja (Morgan Stanley) agrees that the next two CPI prints will reflect a significant tariff contribution, but describes it as “a one-time bump rather than a lingering effect.” Over the medium term, he sees these tariffs as “a consumption tax” that will pressure nominal GDP downward as consumers and companies adjust.

[00:31:00] In market terms, Khanduja underscores a crucial strategic shift: “US assets and US dollar are two separate trades. We see much weaker dollar from here, rather than what we had the last decade.” His team’s base case: 10–15% USD depreciation over the next two years, especially as structural deficits remain high and portfolio inflows rotate toward equities and away from Treasuries.

Controversy & Counterpoints

[00:20:46, 00:28:17] Debate centers on inflation’s persistence and consumer resilience. Daco warns that stagflation could force painful choices for policymakers, while Khanduja and others point to still-strong consumer and corporate balance sheets as a buffer—mortgage rates are locked in, home prices have appreciated, and unemployment remains near historic lows. The timing and magnitude of any “consumer-led slowdown” remain debated, and policy uncertainty compounds the risks.

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???? Federal Reserve: Policy Crossroads Amid Macro Headwinds

Key Analysis

[00:26:26] With political pressure mounting and macro signals mixed, the Fed’s policy challenge intensifies. Daco expects “the Fed will have to pay attention to both sides of the mandate… but has to determine whether tariff-induced inflation is truly a transitory, one-off pressure.” He anticipates that as forward-looking disinflationary forces (especially in shelter) remain, the Fed may be able to modestly ease policy “from a restrictive to a more neutral stance,” barring wage-driven inflation acceleration.

Controversy & Counterpoints

[00:26:26] The specter of a more dovish Fed under political pressure (especially if a new Trump-appointed chair takes office) is acknowledged but not entirely accepted as fate; Daco argues the Fed must still react to actual data, stressing that “macro headwinds are supply-side and sticky,” complicating any policy pivot.

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• ???? The convergence of AI-driven capex, persistent tariffs, and policy uncertainty is setting up a volatile second half of 2025 for both markets and the macroeconomy, with potential upside in US equities—but increased risks for bonds and the US dollar.

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